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Blood_Hound1958
11-30-2012, 12:25 PM
My son and I have developed quite a fascination since we started our Titanic model back in April. We recorded and watched every documentary on natgeo and he and I have decided to take our interest to the next level.....

He said "Hey Dad, wouldn't it be cool to have our own "Titanic Room?" I thought about it for awhile and woke up one morning and drew this while having my morning coffee...

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/001-18.jpg

We've decided to redecorate our Dining Room into a Study and we'll be building a much more historically accurate reproduction onto the main wall. I've begun buying bits and peices and perfecting my brass and copper polishing skills.... Here are a few pictures of what we've gathered so far...

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/100_5427.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/100_4740.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/z32.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/KGrHqJhwE9iGdWRsBPb1Z3h960_12.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/KGrHqZpQE9eDpFHIBPeNNfJvQ60_12.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/KGrHqFlcE9RdsW2UEBPfcV18tww60_12.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/meter1.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/KGrHqJHJBwE89eOVMzBPV7Yqgc0Q60_12.jpg

The idea is to replicate a Titanic Water tight door indicator panel with working lights on one wall like what was shown in the James Cameron film. In addition we hope to reproduce the Marconi wireless room as well. Everything will "function" at 110V. Lastly we'll be restoring a desk my father had in the basement as long as I can remember and that will be it. I'll be using antique edison style bulbs here and there and paneling the wall with tongue and groove pine painted white. :)

I had the idea to do the "Control Panel" and then the perfectionist in me made me decide to build an exact replica! Now we're in trouble! Ebay and craigslist are the best places. What I had the idea to do was collect certain period items for their parts. Take the medical apparatus for example. All I wanted were the brass peices so there is a method to my madness. I thought I would be the first to do this and found out a gentleman by the name of Ted Sinclair has already done so in the UK! He trolled ebay for 4 years and built everything. His reproduction is breathtaking and it will be hard to beat. LOL This guy is a 71 year old retired lori driver.

Check it out! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2188270/Titanic-communications-room-created-retired-lorry-driver-parts-bought-eBay.html

Well, the "mad" collecting of tidbits is steadily picking up speed. Here's the newest additions to the projects parts supply! I paid WAY TO MUCH for the brass gauge. Sure looks period correct! :lol:

1 Vintage Brass Pneumatic Vacuum Money Tube - Lamson
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Tube.jpg

1 American Quack Medical Electrical Device in Wood Case
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Quack1.jpg

1 Antique Vintage 4 D D HOME MEDICAL APPARATUS electroshock...
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Quack2.jpg

1 Vtg A.E. DEAN London BRASS GALVANOMETER Amp gauge MILLI-A...
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Gauge.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Gauge2.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Gauge3.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Gauge1.jpg

1 Vintage Brass Boat Light...
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Light.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Next1.jpg

1 Galvanometer

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/T2eC16JHJF0E9nmFQhdDBQcb5Ek860_12.jpg

1 Reversing Switch

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/KGrHqNnMFWkKPE0BQF9DvMjVw60_12.jpg

Ply474
11-30-2012, 12:33 PM
always love going to The Titanic exhibits! We even drove to Atlantic City in 99 to see the first time ever the Big Piece they lifted from the ocean floor!

Wireless room

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/530244_454681927898224_325819423_n.jpg

Quote from RMS Titanic Inc. : "The cabin for the Marconi Wireless operation had three rooms on board Titanic. One room was sleeping quarters for operators Phillips and Bride, another was the room that actually housed the machine, and the third was a dynamo room (which would have contained an electric generator)."

Looking foward to more pics Sounds great!

christineuk
11-30-2012, 01:18 PM
Nothing made in china there fantastic!! Great project Wayne. I think the titanic holds many mysteries and myths for most most folk who study the events and the ship herself. Who made the black amperes dials?

Blood_Hound1958
11-30-2012, 01:54 PM
That's great Earl. Eventually I hope to take my son to an exhibit. Of course Buffalo sucks so the chances of the exhibit or any part coming our way is slim to none!

Howdy Dean! The black amperes gauges came in a package with volt gauges. Those were made here in the USA unfortunately...Did I just say that? LOL
I'm trying to focus on UK items only nut I'm a bit nervous about it. The London milliamp gauge came from Canada and the Galvanomter, Reverse Switch and the Resistance box I just bought from a gent in the UK. Keeping my fingers crossed they show up!

I've been trying to work a deal on a spark coil in Telford UK and managed to get the guy down to 3k from 5k US but it's still a bit pricey. I'm leary about making an investment like that with no guarantee of it ever showing up... :( Also, it looks the part but is not 100% correct for the project. Kind of like having a 120 speedo in a real Fury if you follow me.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/T2eC16VHJIIE9qTYKJ1BQIovqp860_58.jpg

big m
11-30-2012, 04:07 PM
Neat project!

Those pieces of the puzzle have got to be hard to find.

---John

56royal
11-30-2012, 06:09 PM
I like it, very cool

Doobster
11-30-2012, 11:42 PM
That's cool Wayne.


If it's of any interest.... I did my Electronics Apprenticeship with Marconi Ltd nearly 30 years ago.
After many name changes they were absorbed eventually by BAe.

Marconi did his experiments in Chelmsford..... 15 minutes from me.... their building is now E2V.....they make magnetrons and similar components (used amongst other things for Radiotherapy)... I've had many dealings with them.


At the beginning of the year I was in Southampton with my parents and family.... the Titanic passed through there on her maiden voyage, the place has many ties (museums and Pubs etc) to her.

We had a nice beer in the Titanic pub..... only to realise on our way out that it was a Gay Bar.


But Belfast in N.Ireland is the place to go.....she was built there and they love the fact that she was, with Museums and the dock she was built in etc.


If you need a hand obtaining anything from the UK, let us know if we can help.


I've still got an old Avo 8 , the kind of which I used as an apprentice years ago.... but it might not be old enough to look the part in your room:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AVO-model-8-mark-5-Original-leather-case-Weston-clamp-ammeter-/160932116135?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement _Equipment_ET&hash=item25784d36a7

Blood_Hound1958
12-01-2012, 01:41 AM
I like it, very cool

Thanks! :)

Blood_Hound1958
12-01-2012, 02:22 AM
Very cool Lee. It's a small world after all. I appreciated the help and will almost definitely take you a guys up on it. Here's my first question... What kind of light sockets are in say a typical table lamp in the UK? Reason I ask is I'd like to use period correct sockets only I don't know if they can be wired up here? Also, I noticed that period correct sockets are not threaded like over here but slotted? Do they operate at 110V with a ground? I'd like to order two flush mount brass light holders as pictured in this photo...

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Radio-Room-Titanicbig.jpg

I managed to find a UK site or two but I'm not sure what to order or if I can even use them here? Sadly, not an off the shelf item here at the local hardware store..

http://www.grandbrass.com/images/sob22.jpg

Rebels-59
12-01-2012, 03:17 AM
The Push and Twist type you have shown is what we call "Bayonet", But here in the UK we are 240volt, But if you have Bayonet type bulbs in the US at 110 Volt then it would work, as you would be running the same Voltage as the Bulb, We also do the "Screw In" type Bulb here ..

DVJohn
12-01-2012, 06:24 AM
You gonna paint that shit Red and White?

Doobster
12-01-2012, 07:44 AM
The Push and Twist type you have shown is what we call "Bayonet", But here in the UK we are 240volt, But if you have Bayonet type bulbs in the US at 110 Volt then it would work, as you would be running the same Voltage as the Bulb, We also do the "Screw In" type Bulb here ..

As Clive says Wayne, I have an original Art Deco standard lamp.

It has a brass fitting like that Bayonet one.

New fittings are Bayonet or Edison Screw (ES) or SES (Small Edison Screw).

Our mains voltage is 240V AC (50Hz).
Yours is 110V (60Hz) but your wiring is larger because equipment pulls a larger current for the 110V appliances.

Any brass Bayonet UK fitting will do the job.

Our Plugs and Sockets are much different to yours too.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS-ypcxFJ7KkAccssUhE1x_zgsR7dmj6wxhYqLA_QWu_uxcWQe8


Back in the day they'd have been black, rubber or Bakelite.




Filament lightbulbs have now been phased out for Halogens and High Efficiency bulbs.
Some modern bulbs can't be dimmed.

Old Filament bulbs are still on the shelves but when they go they're gone so buy them now.

christineuk
12-01-2012, 11:03 AM
Wayne, don't be too sure those black amperes guages are made in USA, Sue, my other half works at cromptons and she says these would have been made here in the U.K and distributed via the crompton MOD centre in the U.S. These are sealed meters containing a gas (can't remember what!) that protects the guage from moisture and such.

Blood_Hound1958
12-01-2012, 03:02 PM
Thanks for all the information Clive, Dean and Lee. Now I understand. Would be nice if the black gauges were UK made. I'll have to dig them out and take a closer look. I did a quick search and I think I found the bayonet style I'm after! I don't suppose these are something you could buy off the shelf over there? http://www.buyitbetter.co.uk/lighting-electrical/lamp-holders/brass-lamp-holder-fixed-batten-bc-b22-shade-ring-uk-made-/prod_152.html

This guy amazes me. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-19268792

Doobster
12-01-2012, 09:08 PM
Swaffham is up Clive's way Wayne.


That fitting is too specialised to by picked up at a regular hardware shop.

I normally use RS Components for regular electronics stuff.

We have Radioshacks but not too many...... our own version is Maplins but they mainly do electronic equipment these days.

Farnell, Eriks...... there are other places but they're normally trade only.

Blood_Hound1958
12-02-2012, 11:21 PM
OK thanks Lee. :)

Blood_Hound1958
11-09-2013, 03:53 AM
Taking a break fro the car has put me in a position to resume my Marconi project. In my research I found an interesting article concerning the recovery of an electrical switch from the Titanic wireless room...

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/1379594_3512176501076_790339508_n_zpsc20507e6.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Bloodhound1941/media/1379594_3512176501076_790339508_n_zpsc20507e6.jpg. html)

I set out about a month ago searching for this and low and behold I FOUND IT!!!! Total out of pocket? $9.95

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Switch2_zpsb542d1b7.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Bloodhound1941/media/Switch2_zpsb542d1b7.jpg.html)

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Switch1_zps7bf2dee4.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Bloodhound1941/media/Switch1_zps7bf2dee4.jpg.html)

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Switch3_zps3d3cb789.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Bloodhound1941/media/Switch3_zps3d3cb789.jpg.html)

I would also like to express my sincere thanks to Lee Day for his assistance in acquiring a few items only available in or via the UK. Thanks Lee. Without your help this would be impossible! :) On their way shortly... brass b22 baten lamp holders for my reproduction of the battery charging board etc!

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/board_zps2ef580c7.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Bloodhound1941/media/board_zps2ef580c7.jpg.html)

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/Wayne_zps593f1706.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Bloodhound1941/media/Wayne_zps593f1706.jpg.html)

Doobster
11-11-2013, 08:49 PM
You can't have that Candle light bulb though Wayne, I need it to be able to see in the bathroom :-)
Let me know when you want me to ship them, I'll box them up with other bits you might want to send this way.


Did Dean and I tell you we live 20 minutes from Chelmsford where Marconi invented Wireless?

christineuk
11-11-2013, 10:45 PM
We went to the marconi museum at the end of this summer Lee, not as much there as I hoped, still worth a visit if your'e in the chelmsford area.

Blood_Hound1958
11-12-2013, 02:20 AM
What I'd give Gents! Lucky you are. Chelmsford has an original variable receiver and a chart on the wall I'd kill for! LOL Be expecting some boxes Lee.... they are on the way! Until then, I have set up a small area in an unfinished utility room in the basement for working on this. I'm thinking about taking this in another direction though..... Only time will tell! :)

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/013_zps00feb4cc.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Bloodhound1941/media/013_zps00feb4cc.jpg.html)

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/015_zps1f0f974f.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Bloodhound1941/media/015_zps1f0f974f.jpg.html)

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/014_zps410913fa.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Bloodhound1941/media/014_zps410913fa.jpg.html)

billy whizz
11-12-2013, 07:07 AM
My Grandad's company in Liverpool used to make a lot of consoles for Marconi comms equipment from the beginning of the 20th Century until WW2. They made hardwood consoles and installed them in ships, (including mHarland & Wolff), and trucks. That was back in the day when all trucks were coach-built. You just bought a drivable chassis and had a van/lorry built on it and his business made communications trucks for the army and air force. Unfortunately the factory, (at the back of London Road), took a direct hit one night when Liverpool was being blitzed. They also lost their stainless steel fabrication workshop and their soap factory which were both next door. In the same bombing his house also took a direct hit as it was only a mile directly up the road from the factory. He lost everything in one night. He died before the Titaqnic was found and we often wondered if his company was involved in this installation.

An intriguing footnote to that story is that the soap factory was just ready to patent FLOATING soap bars! The brother in charge of that factory went to war soon after and never came back, so the secret was lost.

Doobster
11-12-2013, 09:38 AM
An intriguing footnote to that story is that the soap factory was just ready to patent FLOATING soap bars! The brother in charge of that factory went to war soon after and never came back, so the secret was lost.

...If he was lost at sea, he might turn up again one day mate.

Doobster
11-12-2013, 09:40 AM
We went to the marconi museum at the end of this summer Lee, not as much there as I hoped, still worth a visit if your'e in the chelmsford area.

Is it anywhere near the E2V building Dean (E2V make magnetrons and component for Radar and Linear Accelerators), they took over the old Marconi factory.

I was an apprentice for Marconi (Basildon) when I left school.

billy whizz
11-12-2013, 11:15 AM
I was an apprentice for Marconi (Basildon) when I left school.



Surely he was dead by them??!!


(Larry, THAT was a freindly joke on Lee, Dumbass!!)

56royal
11-12-2013, 04:07 PM
Surely he was dead by them??!!


(Larry, THAT was a freindly joke on Lee, Dumbass!!)

Jokes are supposed to be funny.

christineuk
11-12-2013, 08:58 PM
It's not that far away Lee tis nearer to the college though, opposite the tesco.

Blood_Hound1958
12-05-2013, 06:55 PM
A little update! I've been on the lookout for vintage/antique starting rheostats and came across an auction with 3 of them. I threw in a hail mary bid an voila! 3 for $50.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can see from this digital reproduction where they were located.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/07-Titanic-II-Old-Radio-Room_zpsf321d2cc.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Bloodhound1941/media/07-Titanic-II-Old-Radio-Room_zpsf321d2cc.jpg.html)

And here they are! :)

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/Bloodhound1941/22099667_1_x_zps4026bfa7.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/user/Bloodhound1941/media/22099667_1_x_zps4026bfa7.jpg.html)

Doobster
12-05-2013, 08:14 PM
Cool.

I've had no bits arrive for a week or two mate.