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    BILLY'S BLACK BEAUTY BUILD

    Some of you guys know about this, but I want to put it on the forum because I am about to take on my own movie car build and will need a lot of advice along the way.

    A familiar story to Christine fans, you will all know that moment when you watch a movie and fall helplessly in love with the movie star -- for most of us she was red n white and born in 1958...me too!!

    A couple of years ago I sat down with my wife to watch a DVD - the 2011 Green Hornet movie. Not the best film ever made, but I was smitten by the Black Beauty

    LOVE STRUCK, I JUMPED ON THE INTERNET THE NEXT MORNING TO BEGIN MY SEARCH.......

    Proper picture to follow when I can work this damned thing out!!
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    So the idea is to build something as close to this as possible, within my means and talents:


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    The car is based on a 1965 Chrysler Crown Imperial. After a two year search where I missed out on a few cars and turned away from many a rusting wreck I found one which seems sound, was a great price, was a California black plate car and was being sold from a place near San Fran called "Heyward", (my name is Heywood, but lots of my inlaws are Haywards...hopefully a good omen).....


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    So, the car arrived at Southampton dock and was ready to be unloaded in a bonding warehouse in Dartford, and that's when the fun started....

    The shipping company in SF decided to put this HUGE car in after a small euro-box in the same container. That involved building a small timber scaffold under the Chrysler to hold it in vertical take-off position. SO far so good, but the warehouse guys cited "health & safety mate" as a reason for not trying to take the car out of the container.....so sent it back to southampton for the dockers to handle it.

    More worrying was the warning that I "Must not put the car indoors for a couple of weeks after I collect it"......(WHAT!!!) Reason being was that they found three large spiders in the container, apparently the "looked like black widows, were the same markings as black widows, and give very nasty bites like blaqck widows....but we can't say they are "Black Widows" or we would have to quarantine the container, throw a fumigation bomb into it and leave the cars doused in smoke", (risking messing my interior leather).

    So collection of my car has been delayed for now.....
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    Looks like a good solid car and nice in silver but I can certainly see the attraction of the black one. Looking forward to following the build

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    Black widows, , not good...........

    The car is great Geoff......look forward to seeing this one get built.

    Why so hard to fumigate,, ,we can buy bombs here at the supermarkets....piece of cake......and they dont touch the furniture,, I have even insect bombed inside someones daily......it got infested.......no problems ,, everything dead and vacuumed up.
    Build it yourself, then at least you know it will be right.

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    Just got the car cleared for pick-up. Kingstown Shipping handled it all and were fantastic throughout. Container shipping from California only cost about 800 and the duty paid was only 148.

    The dockers swept all the insects out they could find and stamped on them in the yard. Problem solved!! I think the bonding warehouse lads were just too keen to quote health & safety regs. I'm glad anyway because the pickup from Southampton is much cheaper and easier than from Dartford.

    We are not allowed spider killers in the UK, the only legit product the public can buy is a peppermint based repellant, or oil extracts from conkers, (which is very effective at keeping them out of the house). You can't kill wasps nests either, but have to employ a Council approved contractor to smoke them away.

    Bees are virtually a protected species in the UK.

    Now sod off and stop making me derail my own thread!!!!
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    Trying-not-to-derail-

    So where do you get things like those guns from Geoff, , are they a prop you can buy or do you have to make them up.

    should be a fun car to build, , what is the interior like on the movie car, , having never watched the movie.....
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    I aim to make a street version of the car first, on the outside, then turn to making the interior right. I will just re-stain/dye the sound interior trim and re-upholster the worst bits in black. We have some good specialists local to me. I have colour changed an interior before and it generally works out well if going from light to dark, as I will be doing. The interior movie-prop consoles (weapon controls) are just bolt-ons, which I aim to make detachable.

    The guns: I have bought patterns for the machine guns and may make my own replicas, or their is a specialist who makes re-enactment props, who can do a couple of guns for about 600-700. A good friend of mine takes restored military vehicles to Normandy every year and I hope to rely on his contacts for the guns. They will be attached by heavy duty magnets, but are only for static off-road shows.

    The front nose cone is the big alteration. I am a clasic car purist, so I will only alter the front when I have sourced replacements for any part I ahve to alter beyond restoration. On this car it's only the grille and front bumper that needs cutting, so that should be easy. After all, if I cock it all up someone else is gonna want an Imperial, not a crap movie clone.

    I full realise I might be wrecking a perfectly good classic car for a clone project that might go wrong, so nothing is to be irreversible.
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    Berry cool! I'm sure there are some black widows here in my shop; they are fairly common here.

    When will you pick up the Imperial? Post some photos when you get her!
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    Right on Geoff,that car will save you a lot of work,looks like a solid one!
    Now it's just paint it red and white and put some aluminium inserts!

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    That will be a fantastic car Geoff, I love it:)

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    Billy I am looking forward to see this car built. Black Beauty is a great choice.....You should have fun with this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ely1958 View Post
    Right on Geoff,that car will save you a lot of work,looks like a solid one!
    Now it's just paint it red and white and put some aluminium inserts!
    You forgot to mention the two Billy goats on the bonnet!!
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    Finally got to see my baby this afternoon!!! Currently at Bryan Hunter's workshop in Pentre, Shropshire (Classic American Restoration Ltd). He's looked after most of the important american classics in this part of the world. He's done a few jobs on my Thunderbird and those of friends and is always really easy to work with.

    This is the ugly duckling as I stood before it:

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    The body and interior are in very sound condition, the engine is sweet and it only needs new bushes on the front, a back half stainless exhaust system and a couple of electrical mods and it will be a driver. The only shame is the tyres are all too old and brittle, so I will have to replace them, even though I intend to put a set of hot rod wheels and tyres on later in the project......(much later).

    The paintwork is badly faded, but it's getting a colour change, so I don't care. (Looks like someone chucked a bottle of brake fluid down one side).
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    I would look at Cost of New Tyres Versus Wheels & Tyres Geoff.

    As you may be able to find those Wheels with half decent tyres over here secondhand for about 600 maybe, Where as buying tyres just for now may set you back 350-400

    Just thinking to spend the Extra few hundred now saves money in the full time..

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    Now starts the fun!

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    Berry good!
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    Looks like a great start, Geoff.

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    Thanks John..... I recommended you to the guys doing the 57 Belvy build. I also need your help on a small parts order for this beastie:
    Interior B post trims. Both of mine are broken badly - hard plastic trim does not survive in the sun. I need both of them in any colour. Same for the rearmost door opening trims - like a hard plastic sabre shaped channel. Finally the restraint strap mechanism for the drivers door.

    That's just for the time being. I assume they are the same from 64-66 models?
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